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jim15936	A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 15 2009, 7:29 PM EDT IF a casting call is a PUBLIC announcement, in effect, a job listing, I maintain that it cannot be subject to copyright protection, any more than any other public document. There are court cases that establish that ads and white pages listings are public info and cannot be protected by copyright. THUS, Please put back the casting call material. It is a PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT for jobs. Post reply 4 out of 4 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you? Keyword tags: None
Jaded_Tech	1. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 15 2009, 8:01 PM EDT K you have officially confused me what is the contexts of this? Post reply Do you find this valuable?
thewhitewilsmith	2. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 15 2009, 8:37 PM EDT \| Post edited: Mar 15 2009, 8:38 PM EDT Since this is a fan site, I doubt serious actors would look on this message board for a job opportunity... Post reply Do you find this valuable?
Jaded_Tech	3. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 15 2009, 8:39 PM EDT Thats what Agents are for. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
theheadwitch	4. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 15 2009, 9:18 PM EDT I think the point here is that there was post for a CASTING CALL and that it was removed with the basios sited as copyright infringement. In effect, an OPEN casting call is not copyrighted and are therefore public domain. These can be posted ANYWHERE.. ie craiglist, local forums, online casting sites, local papers and can and are reprinted at leisure. CLOSED castings are used by casting directors who only look to talent reps for their talent and usually have that listed on their websites that it is closed. Frankly, unless you are in the business (my children are), you'd never hear of them. On THAT note, you do not have to a professional actor to go to a casting call and yes, potential artists look EVERYWHERE for the opportunity of their dreams. Post reply 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
WinterDragon	5. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 15 2009, 10:37 PM EDT Was it reprinted or linked to? Every written document has an author and I believe the written material could have a copyright. What are the rules to linking to ads in this forum? I know many forums don't like advertising on their site. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
steverg	6. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 15 2009, 10:41 PM EDT So far, any link to information about Dollhouse has been fine. Reprint of an article might not be. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
amy_c	8. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 16 2009, 2:31 AM EDT Okay, lemme try to clear some of this up. The spoiler page here on the wiki had a link to a casting call scan over on Spoiler TV. Since then, it has been removed from Spoiler TV. I don't know why, as I don't work over there. Maybe it was a closed casting call, like theheadwitch said. If copyright laws do apply to those, then it might have been removed for those reasons. That's neither here nor there, though. My point is, nothing has been removed from or by this wiki. So, if you are curious about it, maybe someone over at Spoiler TV can answer your questions. It had nothing to do with us! Post reply Do you find this valuable?
t5000	9. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 16 2009, 6:59 PM EDT it was a scam ad, not a real casting call. I think it was to just get your info, and sell that. could be why it was removed Post reply Do you find this valuable?
gossi	10. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 16 2009, 7:27 PM EDT 20th Century Fox have been asking (well, telling) spoiler sites to remove scanned casting sides. It's that simple. Fox own the copyright on them, so they can say how it's redistributed. Hope this clears things up. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
amy_c	11. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Mar 18 2009, 3:56 PM EDT "it was a scam ad, not a real casting call. I think it was to just get your info, and sell that. could be why it was removed" It wasn't a scam ad -- I read the original when it was up there. Like Gossi said, Fox merely asked them to remove the casting call. Fair enough. Post reply Do you find this valuable?
jim15936	12. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Apr 12 2009, 3:11 AM EDT "I think the point here is that there was post for a CASTING CALL and that it was removed with the basios sited as copyright infringement. In effect, an OPEN casting call is not copyrighted and are therefore public domain. These can be posted ANYWHERE.. ie craiglist, local forums, online casting sites, local papers and can and are reprinted at leisure. CLOSED castings are used by casting directors who only look to talent reps for their talent and usually have that listed on their websites that it is closed. Frankly, unless you are in the business (my children are), you'd never hear of them. On THAT note, you do not have to a professional actor to go to a casting call and yes, potential artists look EVERYWHERE for the opportunity of their dreams." Can a closed casting call be legally copyrighted? Hmmm? According to wikipedia, "Copyright does not cover IDEAS and INFORMATION themselves, only the form or manner in which they are expressed." There are also fair use provisions. The existence of a casting call for a character, is an IDEA. You can't try to keep that secret by claiming its copyrightable. Its also "fair usage" to discuss this. Only people living in the legal dark ages think copyright can be used to control information,. Post reply 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you find this valuable? Do you?
Jaded_Tech	13. RE: A casting call CANNOT be copyright infringement. Apr 12 2009, 4:07 AM EDT \| Post edited: Apr 12 2009, 4:08 AM EDT it could have simply been delete because the person that did delete it saw it as spam, and not the stuff you get in the can. and that it didn't belong there. Hmm, spam, I could certainly go for some spam, spam, spam spam, eggs, bacon and spam right about now. Post reply Do you find this valuable?