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sugarboots |
Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 4 2009, 2:14 PM EST
Hmmm - i'm not sure if she's very believable?
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amy_c |
1. RE: Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 4 2009, 2:40 PM EST
I don't know if many people would put her in the same class as Meryl Streep, but I think she's grown as an actress quite a bit since her Buffy days. She seems to be handling the show fine, although her looks sometimes do her a disservice. The hostage negotiation, for example, would have been more believable if she didn't walk in with a skin-tight business suit on. She looked like she was about to pull down her hair and start stripping off her clothes. We've discussed that quite a bit on the site. I don't think they need to ramp up the sex appeal quite so much in certain areas. Sexy is fine, but they shouldn't be afraid to give her the Ugly Betty treatment for some of these gigs! I mean, she'll be right back in the tank top once her mind is wiped, right? Do you find this valuable? |
steverg |
2. RE: Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 4 2009, 9:29 PM EST
I would think that in True Believer, Ep. 1.5, we will see an unvarnished Echo. Passing as a blind cult devotee will demand little attention to self. At a minimum, Echo should have no perceptible makeup on. Anything fancy with her hair would also be verboten. If Eliza can pull off that role without resorting to stereotypes, she will have gone a long way in proving herself.
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Burris. |
3. RE: Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 4 2009, 10:18 PM EST
eliza can pull it off, shes come a long way since not being a teenage actress on buffy. in terms of how she dresses in the show thats something that were guna have to deal with either way this is fox wer talking about hear sex apeal means more than believability in the show lore saddly
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llumi14 |
4. RE: Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 5 2009, 12:18 AM EST
I think it's more than believable actually.For that specialized of a 'business' they would need beautiful men and women as well as not so beautiful. Plus, she's downright creepy after being wiped. That innocent 'what' look of no awareness that she is even a person. Creepy. The actress that plays Sierra doesn't pull it off quite as well. Plus, the scenes in Ep 1 where she was on the patio of the client and he's pushing her and she's having flashbacks, and Ep 3 where she's got Rayna and talking to the fan?... very well done. Do you find this valuable? |
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steverg |
5. RE: Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 5 2009, 12:30 AM EST
BTW, did anyone notice that SUGARBOOTS started this thread? Stirring the pot, milady?
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schmemmm |
6. RE: Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 5 2009, 1:25 AM EST
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Is Eliza believable as Echo yes very, very much so. Is she believable as the other characters, I think she is, I think sometimes over saturation can pull you out of a show.For instance in Being Being John Malkovich at first I had no idea that Cameron Diaz was in it. Physically it did not look like her so even though I had seen lots of her films I just experienced the character as one unique character completely separate from anything else in her body of work. This allowed me to be immersed in the story. In contrast, lets say I see an actress in a show and I really love that character. Then I google her only to find she is so very different from that character. So immediately because I have liked that character immensely and they were different from that actress I think that role is great. So I go onto read lots about that actress and watch lots of their work and eventually not only has that original character stuck in my head as one of their best, but now when I see them, part of my mind gets sucked into their current show, part of my mind is thinking back to their other great character and a more rationale part of my mind say hey look there's 'insert actress name here'. Lol I remember when I first watched Angelina Jolie movies it was before she was big and I watched a few different ones and each time I would like like hey there is a great actress in this! But I never made the connection between them. Later on I realized it was the same great actress in them all. Now you would be hard pressed to watch one of her films without thinking, that's Angela, she's an actress, which immediately takes you out of the story unless its so completely compelling that you can ignore that part of your brain and switch off. So I think looks and over saturation whether in the media or just in general can pull us out of the story and make us think more about production side of things. Do you find this valuable? |
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schmemmm |
7. RE: Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 5 2009, 1:29 AM EST
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I also think as people have said previously, its a completely different ball game when you compare being a different person or several different people each week when you have to go from a core essence of a relatively blank slate to preparing for an extended period of time for a role. Eliza doesn't have that luxury of preparation time or getting into the mindset over an extended period of time, immersing herself in something, she has only a short window of opportunity in which to switch gears so to speak and transform herself, so I think she is actually doing a superb job and is working really hard at getting better and better. And really what more can you expect from someone :) It would be a tough gig for anyone, regardless. Also it's also how tangible a previous character was. Faith to me was so strong and believable as a character, so now when you do see similar mannerisms or accents or actions or lines, you just immediately go there in your head and form that connection. I think in some circumstances it would be hard not avoid that happening, depending on the writing and direction. That's why many said the first scene with Caroline was Faith. A whole crew saw that and it went to air like that, there must be a reason for that, because its hard to believe that they either didn't realize the parallels or wanted something different knowing that that scene was left in like that. Do you find this valuable? |
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amy_c |
8. RE: Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 5 2009, 1:00 PM EST
"BTW, did anyone notice that SUGARBOOTS started this thread? Stirring the pot, milady?"Nothing wrong with that. I like these heated discussions, don't you? ;) Do you find this valuable? |
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steverg |
9. RE: Is Eliza belieavble in this role?
Mar 5 2009, 9:05 PM EST
Absolutely, Amy.
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